Podcast Review – Summary
“How incredible is it that plants have evolved the precise molecular key to unlock your consciousness?” — Michael Pollan
I highlight below a few of the important points raised in a fascinating podcast led withTim Ferriss and Michael Pollan, two individuals deeply involved in the psychedelic community confirming the imminent rise of the San Pedro cactus as an extraordinary tool for growth, transformation and healing. I’ve been following the field of entheogens myself very closely and all the signs are there, telling us San Pedro is being re-discovered.
Michael Pollan (@michaelpollan) is the author of eight books, including How to Change Your Mind, Cooked, Food Rules, In Defense of Food, The Omnivore’s Dilemma, and The Botany of Desire, all of which were New York Times bestsellers. A longtime contributor to The New York Times Magazine, Pollan teaches writing at Harvard University and the University of California, Berkeley. In 2010, Time magazine named him one of the one hundred most influential people in the world. His newest book is This Is Your Mind on Plants.
Tim Ferriss (@tferriss) has been listed as one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and one of Fortune’s “40 under 40.” He is an early-stage technology investor/advisor (Uber, Facebook, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ others) and the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers, including The 4-Hour Workweek and Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers. The Observer and other media have called Tim “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of The Tim Ferriss Show podcast, which is the first business/interview podcast to exceed 100 million downloads. It has now exceeded 600 million downloads.
Tim Ferriss & Michael Pollan
June 30 2021. Podcast with Tim Ferriss and Michael Pollan, Author of New York bestselling “How to change your mind”.
“My interest in mescaline grew out of all the reporting I did in the psychedelic community and asking people, “What’s your favorite psychedelic?” And to my surprise, the answer I heard more than any other was “mescaline.”
And nobody seems to have it. Nobody seems to use it anymore, and yet it was everybody’s favorite. It was the master material, somebody told me.” – Michael Pollan
“I remember somebody saying, “Why have you been hiding this from us for all these years? The hippies were hiding the best drug.” – Michael Pollan
This blog interview is also announcing Michael Pollan’s new book about to be released– This is your mind on plants–
For a myriad of good reasons like ethics, availability, sustainability, I strongly believe San Pedro is to become one of the staple entheogens for people seeking help, clarity, health and empowerment.
This conversation between Tim and Michael is full of golden nuggets:
“… Mescaline [i.e San Pedro or Peyote] doesn’t take you out of this world to another world, as people report about DMT or Ayahuasca, taking you to another dimension of existence. Mescaline takes you deeper into this world.”
Then Michael keeps on, in a delightfully nerdy way :
“… And it [mescaline] just makes the present richer and deeper. And he uses this metaphor of the reducing valve that he argues that most of consciousness is editing reality, keeping things from us, because we would be overwhelmed if we took in all the sensory information available to us at any one time. We just couldn’t process it. Well, on mescaline those valves open really wide. And the sensory information is so intense. The colors are, you just see nuances of green in nature, or blue in the water that you’ve never seen before. And you can stare at the most common object and find it absolutely fascinating, and understand it in a deeper way.
There was no ego dissolution. There were no hallucinations, really. It’s this here and now drug in a way I wasn’t prepared for. So it has a different quality. Also, you can hold a conversation much more easily. Chemically, mescaline is closer to MDMA than it is to LSD. It’s a phenylethylamine. And so, it has that kind of warmth, and sometimes chattiness, and heart opening quality that MDMA has. Compared to, I think of psilocybin and LSD as a very solitary endeavor. Somewhere you’re going deep into your head. So it had a very different quality…
All in all, I’ve deeply enjoyed this interview between two keen adepts of entheogens.
Let me know your thoughts.
For the Podcast on Tim Ferriss show go here